tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post896520963016645334..comments2024-01-11T12:08:39.781-06:00Comments on Richard Armitage Fan Blog: No "Charlie" for Richard *UPDATED*Nat at RA FanBloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02444335092896254805noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-88272127019565592672010-03-12T18:44:15.943-06:002010-03-12T18:44:15.943-06:00Like many others commenting here and on other foru...Like many others commenting here and on other forums I was neither surprised nor disappointed at the news. I'm glad I didn't invest though. I was not in the least bit comfortable with what I saw as blatant profiteering on MO's part. That's not to say that MO deliberately set out to take advantage of the fans, I just think he saw an opportunity and took it. Like someone further up these comments has said it's not really the done thing to announce an actor is taking part in something before they've actually signed for it. Maybe precisely for this reason. MO didn't just break that 'rule', he stomped all over it. Why? Because he's producing his first feature film and will almost certainly do anything to get it made. My consideration now is the people who did choose to invest on the basis that they firmly believed RA was going to be in the film. I hope they're not too disappointed and that they still feel they're part of something interesting and exciting, if in fact, it does get made. <br /><br />I don't think for one moment that the investment of the fans was the make or break in getting the film made. But I do think having an actor with a significant and highly active fan base involved in the project was important to it getting made. There is no doubt in my mind if MO had managed to get Richard to sign a contract the level of investment from the fans would have been higher. From what I've been told MO was approached by fans asking specifically about investment opportunities and not the other way round. I'm not comfortable with the way he's gone about this business but I do appreciate he did not start the ball rolling on this.<br /><br />The film did sound interesting and if it does get made I will watch it. But it's only fair to say I'm not nearly as interested in the project as I would be if Richard was involved. <br /><br />I guess the reason why some of the forums had boards specifically for the project was as much about being organised as it was about Richard. At one time there were several threads on each of the boards dedicated to the project, a board for the project acts as a place to keep them organised.TheJokernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-61441176703840387232010-03-12T16:20:46.856-06:002010-03-12T16:20:46.856-06:00I share your opinion. My downtime doesn't loo...I share your opinion. My downtime doesn't look like downtime to most others.bZirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05086707471450034283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-38838520062926079952010-03-12T15:55:35.428-06:002010-03-12T15:55:35.428-06:00Perhaps voiceover work and an audio book were rela...Perhaps voiceover work and an audio book were relaxing enough and done close enough to home to be an enjoyable part of a break? I travelled a LOT from 2005 well into 2007, though not half of what Richard has done since shooting began on RH. Going to work from my own home WAS a break.<br /><br />I can't see how you can say with authority that it "certainly wasn't due to Richard wanting a break."<br /><br />My opinion only.Joan Crenshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09061380968166317200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-71367039200580294732010-03-12T08:30:53.232-06:002010-03-12T08:30:53.232-06:00It seems Richard has done yet another audio book a...It seems Richard has done yet another audio book and narrated a programme on the British Channel four TV network, which aired last night (and I missed!). This means that when the filming of Charlie was put back earlier this year it certainly wasn't due to Richard wanting a break. It was obviously due to being offered voiceover work. Personally I believe Mike Ogden was still fannying about trying to raise finances for the film and so Richard quite rightly deferred signing any contract. There probably wasn't any money to pay him in the Charlie kitty anyway.<br /><br />Here's a link to the YouTube clip Too Poor for Posh School which Richard narrated:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m598b6zbiyQ<br /><br />and here's the US Amazon link to the new Georgette Heyer audio book read by Richard:<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Convenient-Marriage-Georgette-Heyer/dp/1843794411/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268396273&sr=8-1Suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-44525204540247266762010-03-12T01:24:49.585-06:002010-03-12T01:24:49.585-06:00thank you everyone for the welcome back:-)!
Misse...thank you everyone for the welcome back:-)!<br /><br />Missed you all too and as you can see, could not stay away from RA world for long!jtmhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-36902493348237035102010-03-11T19:33:10.046-06:002010-03-11T19:33:10.046-06:00I invested in the film purely because I wanted to ...I invested in the film purely because I wanted to help get what seemed like a good role for Richard off the ground. <br /><br />I am very disappointed that it won't happen with Richard and although I wish the movie well and will follow its progress, even a return on my money would not take the disappointment away when I see someone else in the role.<br /><br />This outcome and no movie at all was something I was prepared for, and I was aware I was taking things on trust, including RA's participation. I knew my investment would quite likely end up a write off but my hoped for outcome made the risk worth it for me.<br /><br />I approached Mike about the possibility of whether small investments or donations could help in any way before the investment option arose on the forum, so he never solicited me in any way. It ended up an investment but I always thought it would most likely be a donation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-48484855768237248052010-03-11T13:34:34.435-06:002010-03-11T13:34:34.435-06:00I assume Lara is still invloved in the Charlie fil...I assume Lara is still invloved in the Charlie film??? she certainly does have a great voice.Myrtlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-17626960888479768552010-03-11T13:22:58.849-06:002010-03-11T13:22:58.849-06:00@Sue,
No question that a bird in hand...
I'm...@Sue,<br /><br />No question that a bird in hand...<br /><br />I'm just happy he's always got one in hand. :D<br /><br />@jtmh,<br /><br />Good to "see" you. <br /><br />I was referring to bccmee's AA and C19 accounts. I'm not bothered by her deleting them other than I enjoyed talking to her. Oh, and I didn't necessarily think anything "nefarious" was going on. I just wondered about her and what was up with her Charlie connection. Frankly, if she is having some success in her field, I'm glad. I hope she comes back and updates. <br /><br />Frankly, I was never all that into the Charlie movie other than thinking, "Alright! Maybe a film role for Richard and a lead!" I only looked at the forum a couple of times out of my cussed curiosity, and once it was satisfied, I didn't spend anymore time there.<br /><br />To be candid, the best thing that came out of my introduction to the movie was becoming aware of Lara Fabian's talent. Ohmygosh! she is a fantastic singer! So I'm glad for having heard about the movie simply because of her.<br /><br />Okay, that was probably more than you wanted to know, but this entry is mostly to everyone in general.bZirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05086707471450034283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-37227963145391680192010-03-11T12:24:01.497-06:002010-03-11T12:24:01.497-06:00I think Sue is spot on once again.
Best of luck to...I think Sue is spot on once again.<br />Best of luck to Richard, as always.<br />That's all:)tully2shoeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01220795412205863079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-34198357568788288132010-03-11T11:38:29.142-06:002010-03-11T11:38:29.142-06:00I think if all the finances for the making of Char...I think if all the finances for the making of Charlie had been in place Richard would have cleared his desk of other projects and made a 10 week time slot available. However he could easily have made a 10 week time slot available, turning down financially luctrative work for the BBC/SKY, only to discover that the film was later cancelled through lack of money. This would have ended up with Richard losing definite work elsewhere, the end result only to be a 10 week unpaid work gap. No actor will take that risk. If other work has been offered (such as Strike Back)then I don't blame Richard for accepting the work and putting Charlie on the back burner. Mike Ogden was still stratching around for DVD deals with Sky up until a couple of weeks ago which means he is still looking for investors, not a good sign in my view. No, Richard is better off out of this one I believe.<br /><br />What happened about the stage play mentioned anyway?Suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-18133824872811696572010-03-11T11:29:57.682-06:002010-03-11T11:29:57.682-06:00Uh, my brain is hurting after reading all those co...Uh, my brain is hurting after reading all those comments. Interesting though, as I don't have a clue about the internal workings of the film industry. I was looking forward to 'Charlie' but aslong as the 'handsome one' is in work and on our screens in some form, I am a happy girly. I am longing for the Richard 111 production, unfortunately RA may be slightly to old to play the lead, but I am sure he could have another role? It will be fun discovering what his new plans are!Myrtlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-49839568095104405662010-03-11T11:12:54.077-06:002010-03-11T11:12:54.077-06:00I recall Mike telling people that they could not u...I recall Mike telling people that they could not use Richard's image as Charlie on the forum because he was not yet contractually obligated. <br /><br />I am surprised at bccmee pulling her account at AA because she was VERY active over there till the Charlie forum opened. She managed to get right next to Mike quickly so perhaps she has leveraged her PR background to work that means she needs to get off the AA forum? That was not meant as a criticism of her; if she is indeed in PR, it's her job to do these things well.<br /><br />My personal opinion is that I don't care what work Richard does, as long as he works steadily. A film would have been nice, but maybe someday soon. Spooks and Strike Back, plus the voiceover work and reading makes me quite happy.<br /><br />Mike was very generous with his time in answering questions and participating with the women on the board. But in return he DID secure some of his financing --was that unfair of him? I don't think so as he was VERY upfront at all times about Richard not being signed. I wish him well and will still follow the progress of the film because it interests me. But I was rarely on the Charlie Forum. Too much else going on.<br /><br />Skully, love the idea of an all-volunteer fim crew. Count me in. I retire next year and will ahppily come spend 10 weeks in Italy with your fantasy film crew.Joan Crenshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09061380968166317200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-21993766715874824142010-03-11T07:16:11.021-06:002010-03-11T07:16:11.021-06:00I'm just disappointed. I would have loved Rich...I'm just disappointed. I would have loved Richard as Charlie. I didn't follow the forum regularly but I didn't like the idea of soliciting funds from RA's fans. That was something which deeply bothered me. Then, now I'm even more bothered by that fact. I can't wait to discover Richard's future plans and projects, now!Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-26701369552409992612010-03-11T06:32:00.395-06:002010-03-11T06:32:00.395-06:00i dont know why there is such negativity going on....i dont know why there is such negativity going on. i havent been hangng about in the fandom since December when my computer died so maybe stuff has been happening that i dont know about, but the Charlie site ALWAYS said that RA was going to appear subject to availability. SO any investors were taking a risk if they were expecting RA to definately be in i. Also back when i joined the Charlie forum I asked about the investing and they were accepting amounts as small as $10. I didnt invest because i am a lazy bum but i did think about it. Charlie sounds like an interesting film so if it gets made then I will be happy to see. I am disappointed Our Man isnt in it anymore but as long as RA is out there working I am happy.endorwitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13253414990103844820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-2047543682345092502010-03-11T01:44:37.170-06:002010-03-11T01:44:37.170-06:00I've just come home from work so am really lat...I've just come home from work so am really late in commenting here. <br /><br />I have a daughter training in the industry and have been running all the strategies used right from the start of this film proposal past her. She got info from her lecturers in the arts and I had a comment from an indie film maker on my blog. It was felt unanimously that until everything is finalised legally, cast members should not be publicized. The "subject to contract" clause beside RA's name should have been enough to warn fans but even as late as yesterday people were talking on C19 as if this movie was a done deal for RA. The other RA forums even had boards dedicated to the movie. At no time did RA or his team ever even mention the name of the movie - it all came from MO. I never felt comfortable about the way the fans were recruited to support this movie and I hope many of them are not too upset. <br /><br />BTW, jtmh - lovely to see you posting here!! You have been missed.mulubinbanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-76517166832500770642010-03-11T01:18:25.611-06:002010-03-11T01:18:25.611-06:00bzirk - what do you mean by bccmee deleting her ac...bzirk - what do you mean by bccmee deleting her account. She still is on the charlie forum. I am sorry for being all confused having just read this newsjtmhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-72813307239322747082010-03-11T00:44:58.270-06:002010-03-11T00:44:58.270-06:00"Q - Did Richard understand and was he disapp..."Q - Did Richard understand and was he disappointed?<br />MO - "I can't comment on how Richard feels." <br /><br />I am sure this comment can be ascribed to the fact that Mike O had invested a lot of emotional and psychological energy in Richard playing Charlie. I am sure he must be feeling a bit of betrayal at Richard pulling out/not being able to make it / putting his TV jobs ahead of Charlie etc. I know Richard did not commit to the role and Mike O may not have the financing, but still not having Richard must cause some pain.Rupnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-906202100355476352010-03-10T21:38:53.678-06:002010-03-10T21:38:53.678-06:00I HAVE A SUGGESTION! A solution to this quandary, ...I HAVE A SUGGESTION! A solution to this quandary, if you will. A good friend of mine is working on a script/film right now that, coincidentally, is also set in WWII in Italy (seriously!). It won't be as long as a 10 week shoot. It hasn't been cast yet.... are you with me? ;) Different film, same uniform! It's low budget - so I imagine a crew made up of Armitage Army volunteers who are prepared to work for free in exchange for RA gawking opportunities, could be a viable option!<br /><br />Downside... no way in hell this production could afford RA!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-63545685711703305812010-03-10T20:16:44.768-06:002010-03-10T20:16:44.768-06:00Oh, dang. I missed the chance to say priceless. ...Oh, dang. I missed the chance to say priceless. :DbZirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05086707471450034283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-81786500444115625462010-03-10T20:10:05.078-06:002010-03-10T20:10:05.078-06:00@bZirk,
Honey, you said it best!
"Frankly, ...@bZirk,<br /><br />Honey, you said it best!<br /><br />"Frankly, my investment in Richard Armitage is mostly sitting on the shelves near my tv and also on my desk. At least my cash investment. My time investment can't be calculated. LOL!"<br /><br />I think that's probably true for most of us :)Twinkling Moonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-48340905923003040982010-03-10T20:03:24.812-06:002010-03-10T20:03:24.812-06:00Oh, I have great affection for you, @rob, and yeah...Oh, I have great affection for you, @rob, and yeah, I'm glad I don't have to call you Anon @ 2:10 anymore (or were you Anon @ 2:09?) :D<br /><br />As for luring serious investors or producers, I understand attaching a name can effect that, so it can make business sense to do it. It was only the fan solicitation that I had qualms about.<br /><br />Frankly, my investment in Richard Armitage is mostly sitting on the shelves near my tv and also on my desk. At least my cash investment. My time investment can't be calculated. LOL!<br /><br />Oh, and I've been playing Sylvester a lot, and I normally don't like books like that -- Regency romance nor audiobooks. But I'm changing my mind. :DbZirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05086707471450034283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-80714215739563742672010-03-10T19:53:35.310-06:002010-03-10T19:53:35.310-06:00As long as he keeps working in general I'm hap...As long as he keeps working in general I'm happyRed Shoe Artisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12624556640303519060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-32159228781886193912010-03-10T19:53:32.490-06:002010-03-10T19:53:32.490-06:00Thanks for this updated info. I'm not embarras...Thanks for this updated info. I'm not embarrassed to say the only reason I was interested in "Charlie" was because of Richard. The chance to see him on the big screen was the draw.<br /><br />I am sorry things couldn't work out and that Richard will not be a part of it. There were already so many inconsistencies and different news reports on why it was delayed; lack of financial backing at first and Richard's schedule for another.<br /><br />At least Richard is busy working and that is good enough news for me. I am relying on fate, that RA wasn't meant to be a part of this. Hopefully another role will show and one day we will see him on the big screen. As Richard the III possibly? It will just take a little while longer to happen.Longhairedtoadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05269106734007379055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-78877511840671882942010-03-10T19:34:46.329-06:002010-03-10T19:34:46.329-06:00Wow! I feel like a bad RA fan, because quite frank...Wow! I feel like a bad RA fan, because quite frankly, I don't care. As has been mentioned, RA had never signed a contract so I never thougt of it as an RA project; I never was enthusiastic about the film anyway so to me it's no big deal.<br /><br />I wish RA all the best in all his projects, and most likely will watch them. but I rarely become interested in projects simply because someone is attached to them. The project itself must interest me.Twinkling Moonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2173914596327749967.post-66954557536114228192010-03-10T19:12:56.913-06:002010-03-10T19:12:56.913-06:00Venetia! I can't wait!!! I have it on pre-orde...Venetia! I can't wait!!! I have it on pre-order. I love, love, love Sylvestor and listen to it over and over again. <br /><br />bZirk -- I got nothing but love for ya. You gave me my screen name. :) I just didn't want to get mixed up with that "other" pr person...us pr people get enough of a bad wrap as it is!<br /><br />I want to clarify one thing -- it is not uncommon to attach an actor to get funding from real investors or lure producers on board. I do not condone having fans invest in a film. <br /><br />!@Robnoreply@blogger.com